Interesting Clyde, thanks for this website. I do still enjoy the BSN newsletters, your continued effort is much appreciated by our little group here. We are still considering your “Salvation of All” message and look forward to all the entries in your newsletters. Have a splendid day and excellent weekend!
I don’t like getting into unknowns on the internet, but I think this site believes the only gospel which works since 70 AD is 1Cor 15:1-4. I hope everyone on this site is preaching or teaching that. It should be the first thing you teach someone. 1Cor 15:3 says it is first, protos, which means most important. Without this gospel, you can get no where with God or people you are trying to teach. He won’t use you. Thepower comes through the gospel, Rm 1:16. So Paul always taught this first, protos, in every town he entered. For the most part, I am rejected for my teaching this gospel. And that is the way it should be, 2Cor13:5. If you have a large following where you teach, you are doing something wrong. It doesn’t make sense, earthly sense, but it makes sense to God. That is what 2Cor 13:5 says.
So where are the bands and joints in PA. I need some body parts to help hold me up?
Hi my name is Natalie, I live in the Pittsburgh PA, I would love to have fellowship with Believes that know the Truth in the Love and Grace of are Lord Jesus Christ for all. Blessing
I live about 75 miles north of Pittsburgh, but my family and I occasionally make it down to Pittsburgh, so maybe we could play it by ear — and eventually meet each other. You could also visit us in Greenville. In addition, I work for the Census south of here and could meet you for lunch sometime somewhere in between Greenville and Pittsburgh.
My wife and I had the definite privilege of spending a weekend last month with Clyde Pilkington Jr. and his family in Windber. His ministry is akin to a cavalcade of interwoven strands of fresh air, and I’ve been absorbing his books like spiritual food. THE SALVATION OF ALL is a message that resonates with my heart and inspires love for everyone. It would truly be a blessing to talk with you about this.
Natalie, you shoud not absorb anyone’s books as though they are
spiritual. Only the Bible is spiritual. I am glad you have a desire to know the truth, but please stay in the Bible. God says study only the Bible to understand the Bible, 1Corinthians2:13. And at the apex of all scripture is the gospel of salvation, 1Coritnians15:1-4, Jesus died for your sins, He was buried, and He rose again on the third day. Paul says if you believe only this, you have eternal salvation with the Lord.
Ah, Steve, I believe I was guilty of inexactness at the very least, and I request your forgiveness for that.
First of all, I was inexact in one respect because I was speaking not just of the book THE SALVATION OF ALL but also of the Biblical message of The Salvation of All (I Corinthians 15:21-28). I also acknowledge that I was inexact in my use of the phrase ‘spiritual food’. It would have been more accurate to state that I’ve been absorbing what I’ve been reading about the salvation of all as if it were spiritual APPETIZERS, because that reading has performed the function of whetting my appetite for further study in, as you indicate, the True Source of All Sources of Spiritual Food — The ONLY Main Course, as it were. The Holy Scriptures are indeed the Final Authority on everything spiritual.
However, we have to be careful when we take it upon ourselves to decide exactly how that is to be enforced upon our fellow children of God. On the one hand, we could make the mistake of treating as inspired any human utterance invoking the name of God. On the other hand, though, we could just as mistakenly insist that the only reading we do be among the pages of Holy Scripture. Keeping things in perspective seems to be in order. As long as we are keeping paramount in our minds that Holy Scripture is the Ultimate Authority trumping all others, how can we be certain that no other writing is at all spiritual? One approach I believe keeps one properly grounded is to consider those written works that predominantly, repetitively and consistently point back to Scripture without manipulative distortion to actually BE spiritual appetizers — appetizers, because as wonderful as they may be they can not ultimately be sustaining on their own; and spiritual because they draw our attention back to Them and That which inspired those respectful writings in the first place: Holy Scripture, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and our Heavenly Father.
So let’s be careful we don’t too quickly conclude that Holy Scriptures are the only spiritual writings. We are admonished to read The Bible, but we are also admonished to seek out The Body of Christ, to fellowship with fellow members, and to learn with them as we individually and collectively seek further wisdom in Scriptures. If we strictly limit our spiritual education to The Bible, where do we stop when it comes to our interaction with words. If we’re going to reject all books as non-spiritual, shouldn’t we then have integrity in the matter and extend that to rejecting ALL written words, including those written in online blogs? We should be cautious when we feel an impulse to suppress the spiritual research of others, because before we know it we could end up squelching speech as well as writing.
My request is therefore that you forgive me for the inexactness of my writing, and I will thank YOU for inspiring me to do a better job articulating what I meant to say in the first place! I will also borrow a turn of phrase from 16th-Century Anabaptist Balthasar Hubmaier: “I may err — I am a man,” he wrote, “but a heretic I cannot be, because I ask constantly for instruction in the word of God.” Being wrong is ALWAYS a possibility where I’m concerned, but I NEVER intend to contradict God’s teaching. In the spirit of Rev. Hubmaier, if I am wrong, please convince me, because I never WANT to be wrong!
Christian family seeking like-minded fellowship in Central PA. I am convinced that Jesus is the Savior of all mankind and have defended my position here http://www.dgjc.org. Drop me an email at jeff@dgjc.org if you are interested in meeting. Put the subject in uppercase so I recognize you email in the midst of my spam!
Hello, I live in Pittsburgh, PA. I’m going out to the Johnstown area to meet Clyde and the fam. June 17. I was part o a Mid-Acts group for years. What I’ve been called to study, and has helped clarify my understanding, is context and chronology especially in Acts and Paul’s epistles. But I do think hints found in the other epistles can also bring clarity.
I too like Mark live along the Ohio River, but closer to Pittsburgh.
Kathy
Nice to hear from someone close to the Pittsburgh area. Here is my email address if you would want to contact me that way markvogt@comcast.net. I would love to hear from you and hear what your “story” is. I think everyone has an interesting story about their journey into the truth.
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Interesting Clyde, thanks for this website. I do still enjoy the BSN newsletters, your continued effort is much appreciated by our little group here. We are still considering your “Salvation of All” message and look forward to all the entries in your newsletters. Have a splendid day and excellent weekend!
Jason
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David,
It is great hearing from you, dear brother. Your words are such an encouragement. I look forward to the opportunity to meet one day.
Clyde
I don’t like getting into unknowns on the internet, but I think this site believes the only gospel which works since 70 AD is 1Cor 15:1-4. I hope everyone on this site is preaching or teaching that. It should be the first thing you teach someone. 1Cor 15:3 says it is first, protos, which means most important. Without this gospel, you can get no where with God or people you are trying to teach. He won’t use you. Thepower comes through the gospel, Rm 1:16. So Paul always taught this first, protos, in every town he entered. For the most part, I am rejected for my teaching this gospel. And that is the way it should be, 2Cor13:5. If you have a large following where you teach, you are doing something wrong. It doesn’t make sense, earthly sense, but it makes sense to God. That is what 2Cor 13:5 says.
So where are the bands and joints in PA. I need some body parts to help hold me up?
Anyone in the Berks or Lebanon counties are that are considering this gospel and would like to chat about it over coffee?
Hi my name is Natalie, I live in the Pittsburgh PA, I would love to have fellowship with Believes that know the Truth in the Love and Grace of are Lord Jesus Christ for all. Blessing
Hi Natalie and others.
I live about 75 miles north of Pittsburgh, but my family and I occasionally make it down to Pittsburgh, so maybe we could play it by ear — and eventually meet each other. You could also visit us in Greenville. In addition, I work for the Census south of here and could meet you for lunch sometime somewhere in between Greenville and Pittsburgh.
My wife and I had the definite privilege of spending a weekend last month with Clyde Pilkington Jr. and his family in Windber. His ministry is akin to a cavalcade of interwoven strands of fresh air, and I’ve been absorbing his books like spiritual food. THE SALVATION OF ALL is a message that resonates with my heart and inspires love for everyone. It would truly be a blessing to talk with you about this.
Keith, I live in Beaver Falls. Hit me with an email.
markvogt@comcast.net
Natalie, I live in Beaver Falls just north of Pittsburgh. I would love to hear the story about your journey.
Sure, Mark. What’s your email address?
Natalie, you shoud not absorb anyone’s books as though they are
spiritual. Only the Bible is spiritual. I am glad you have a desire to know the truth, but please stay in the Bible. God says study only the Bible to understand the Bible, 1Corinthians2:13. And at the apex of all scripture is the gospel of salvation, 1Coritnians15:1-4, Jesus died for your sins, He was buried, and He rose again on the third day. Paul says if you believe only this, you have eternal salvation with the Lord.
My apology, Natalie, my comments were for Keith Martin, not you.
Ah, Steve, I believe I was guilty of inexactness at the very least, and I request your forgiveness for that.
First of all, I was inexact in one respect because I was speaking not just of the book THE SALVATION OF ALL but also of the Biblical message of The Salvation of All (I Corinthians 15:21-28). I also acknowledge that I was inexact in my use of the phrase ‘spiritual food’. It would have been more accurate to state that I’ve been absorbing what I’ve been reading about the salvation of all as if it were spiritual APPETIZERS, because that reading has performed the function of whetting my appetite for further study in, as you indicate, the True Source of All Sources of Spiritual Food — The ONLY Main Course, as it were. The Holy Scriptures are indeed the Final Authority on everything spiritual.
However, we have to be careful when we take it upon ourselves to decide exactly how that is to be enforced upon our fellow children of God. On the one hand, we could make the mistake of treating as inspired any human utterance invoking the name of God. On the other hand, though, we could just as mistakenly insist that the only reading we do be among the pages of Holy Scripture. Keeping things in perspective seems to be in order. As long as we are keeping paramount in our minds that Holy Scripture is the Ultimate Authority trumping all others, how can we be certain that no other writing is at all spiritual? One approach I believe keeps one properly grounded is to consider those written works that predominantly, repetitively and consistently point back to Scripture without manipulative distortion to actually BE spiritual appetizers — appetizers, because as wonderful as they may be they can not ultimately be sustaining on their own; and spiritual because they draw our attention back to Them and That which inspired those respectful writings in the first place: Holy Scripture, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and our Heavenly Father.
So let’s be careful we don’t too quickly conclude that Holy Scriptures are the only spiritual writings. We are admonished to read The Bible, but we are also admonished to seek out The Body of Christ, to fellowship with fellow members, and to learn with them as we individually and collectively seek further wisdom in Scriptures. If we strictly limit our spiritual education to The Bible, where do we stop when it comes to our interaction with words. If we’re going to reject all books as non-spiritual, shouldn’t we then have integrity in the matter and extend that to rejecting ALL written words, including those written in online blogs? We should be cautious when we feel an impulse to suppress the spiritual research of others, because before we know it we could end up squelching speech as well as writing.
My request is therefore that you forgive me for the inexactness of my writing, and I will thank YOU for inspiring me to do a better job articulating what I meant to say in the first place! I will also borrow a turn of phrase from 16th-Century Anabaptist Balthasar Hubmaier: “I may err — I am a man,” he wrote, “but a heretic I cannot be, because I ask constantly for instruction in the word of God.” Being wrong is ALWAYS a possibility where I’m concerned, but I NEVER intend to contradict God’s teaching. In the spirit of Rev. Hubmaier, if I am wrong, please convince me, because I never WANT to be wrong!
God is Love!
Keith
WOW, have a good life. I won’t bother you again.
Christian family seeking like-minded fellowship in Central PA. I am convinced that Jesus is the Savior of all mankind and have defended my position here http://www.dgjc.org. Drop me an email at jeff@dgjc.org if you are interested in meeting. Put the subject in uppercase so I recognize you email in the midst of my spam!
Hello, I live in Pittsburgh, PA. I’m going out to the Johnstown area to meet Clyde and the fam. June 17. I was part o a Mid-Acts group for years. What I’ve been called to study, and has helped clarify my understanding, is context and chronology especially in Acts and Paul’s epistles. But I do think hints found in the other epistles can also bring clarity.
I too like Mark live along the Ohio River, but closer to Pittsburgh.
Kathy
Nice to hear from someone close to the Pittsburgh area. Here is my email address if you would want to contact me that way markvogt@comcast.net. I would love to hear from you and hear what your “story” is. I think everyone has an interesting story about their journey into the truth.
Mark